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Date: 2007-05-17 05:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] djonn
We're talking about two different qualitative things here. It's not a transitive/intransitive thing, it's whether you're talking about shining as in "polishing things" (i.e. shoes or silver), or shining as in giving off or reflecting light (i.e. the sun or a mirror). Thus:

The past tense of polishing-shining is "shined". The past tense of glowing-shining is "shone".

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Date: 2007-05-17 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
Well, I certainly never "shone" my shoes, anyway; that's absolutely clear to me :-).

But I think the *other* one is complicated. I know I *shined* my flashlight on something the other night, for example; I'm really quite sure I didn't "shone" it.

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Date: 2007-05-17 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twilight2000.livejournal.com
But the light from your flashlight "shone" with a special radiance.

Right?

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Date: 2007-05-17 06:37 am (UTC)
djonn: Self-portrait, May 2025 (Default)
From: [personal profile] djonn
Right, indeed -- and I'd argue that "...he shined a flashlight on the lake's surface..." is, strictly, inaccurate usage, because the flashlight is not synonymous with the light it emits. (You can do a lot of other things with a flashlight that are not related to making light -- for instance, whacking someone upside the head with it. Also, "I shined my flashlight..." could be read to mean "I polished the shiny metal surface of my flashlight...", and that's potentially confusing.

This is nitpicky, I know. But I am inclined to stand firm on it, short of TNH or Deanna Hoak weighing in on the opposite side....

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Date: 2007-05-17 10:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com
Well, I certainly never "shone" my shoes

I never did either, but that's because over here in the UK, as far as I know, we never shine our shoes, we only ever polish them. *g*

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Date: 2007-05-17 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com
Round here we would definitely have shone our shoes, too, and we shone a flashlight into the hole in the ground to see what was inside.

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Date: 2007-05-17 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com
Sorry, I realise that [livejournal.com profile] llygoden is right and I polished my shoes.

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Date: 2007-05-17 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maryread.livejournal.com
until they shone?

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Date: 2007-05-17 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateyule.livejournal.com
Shouldn't that last option be "Oooh! Shiny!" ?

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Date: 2007-05-17 03:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katybeth
*giggle*

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Date: 2007-05-17 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] billeyler.livejournal.com
We LOVE English...

Shake, shook, shaken
Take, took, taken
Bake, book, baken
Make, mook, maken
Rake, rook, raken
Fake, fook, faken....

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Date: 2007-05-17 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshenglish.livejournal.com
I hate having to jump into a dictionary to check my answer, but MW.com lists the distinction as transitive/intransitive, so both the third and forth choices point to the same thing, don't they?

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Date: 2007-05-17 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshenglish.livejournal.com
I hate this language somedays. I really do. It can be beautiful, but sometimes the internal conflicts are frustrating. How did I ever learn this stuff?

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Date: 2007-05-18 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffsoesbe.livejournal.com
past tense of "shine" is "shine on"

you crazy diamond, you

Actually ...

Date: 2007-07-27 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorjim.livejournal.com
The past tense of shine is dull, if my car is any indication.

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